IT’S TEN FANFICS ON AO3 FOR A FANDOM THAT NOT EVEN ONE-SEVENTH OF THE POPULATION OF PLANET EARTH KNOWS EXISTS. IT ISN’T “NORMALIZING” ANYTHING, KAREN. STOP CLUTCHING YOUR PEARLS BEFORE YOU CHOKE YOURSELF
If you’re going after fanfic authors instead of Hollywood directors/bestselling authors, you aren’t worried about what’s being ‘normalized’.
You just want an easy target.
“If you’re going after fanfic authors instead of Hollywood directors/bestselling authors, you aren’t worried about what’s being ‘normalized’.
You just want an easy target.”
If anyone recognizes the artist of the cub in the top middle, that’d be very helpful!
As you can see, Ci345 scratched out Kamirah’s watermark.
Ci345 has disrespectfully recolored other people’s art and even scratched out the watermarks. They’ve stolen from Kaisertiger and Kamirah and refused credit, claiming the hard work put into making the image. There’s a third victim but I, unfortunately, dunno who’s art that belongs to.
Psssst! It’s because they’re puritan bullies who get off on the idea of punching to the sides and down and having the same schoolyard bully power that others had when they were younger!
It’s because they’re enjoying a taste of what having power is like without actually having it. And they’re vile enough that they don’t care that they’re hurting other people to do it.
proshippers defend content made for pedos and create content used to groom real life people i think they can handle a little criticism
Can you read? You must not be able to read. Because I said repeatedly that I do not care about your pro-ship/anti-ship bullshit and I do not want to hear any arguments about it.
Do you care that I’m CSA survivor? Do you care that coming into my inbox spouting off about pedophiles and grooming is upsetting for actual survivors? Or do you only care about your fake children so you can create hysteria and spread your far-right, evangelical, “purity culture” nonsense? I’m guessing it’s the second. No, I know it’s the second, given the number of people I’ve met in groups for survivors using fiction as a coping method.
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
Blocked.
They’re always anonymous when they pull this shit, too, which tells you they KNOW it’s unacceptable and just don’t care.
Antis going around claiming that “proship” and “profic” means “liking gross/problematic content” is the same as those annoying guys who were going around when I was in like, high school, claiming that “feminist” and “feminism” means “hating men”.
I hate to break it to y’all. But if you don’t support harassing people for what they ship/read/write/draw/look at,and you think harassing people over fiction is WRONG, no matter how you personally feel about that content… That’s being proship/profic, hun. There’s this BS narrative that anti is one side of the spectrum, proship/profic is the other, and there’s an in the middle. But the very neutral stance of “Other people have their ships/interests/stuff, and I don’t look at what I don’t like/ don’t interact with that content and I mind my own business” IS being proship/profic.
It’s literally just “I don’t harass people for their taste in fiction and I think that’s wrong”. You don’t have to feel any sort of way about any sort of content personally. That’s BS.
Yeah it’s literally like when people are like “I’m not pro-choice OR pro-life, I’m pro-education!” and like… that’s literally just pro-choice. Like being pro-choice doesn’t mean and has never meant “I want there to be as many abortions as it is physically possible for there to be” - all political positions that involve people being able to choose to have an abortion are pro-choice positions. The mythical center you’re imagining is already encompassed by one of the two sides of the debate.
I think the thing that makes this hard to see if you haven’t been here all along is that “proship” is, as far as I know, a term invented by antis to characterize the “other” side. To make it seem like anyone who isn’t an anti is taking a side. So you end up with the generic position of “live and let live” being the definition of proship, because the side that’s against that is the one that did the naming of the sides.
EXACTLY. That’s why I don’t call myself “proship” because it’s a term antis invented. I’m just a person who likes shipping and doesn’t think it’s ok to harass other people based on what fiction they read/write/post about which is…you know, just being normal and having basic human decency. The antis are the extremists who came in and started acting like harassing people because of a fictional story they like is acceptable. And then tried to act like not doing that is some kind of radical position instead of just being normal and showing basic levels of maturity and human decency.
It’s not even “literally like”–it’s just the same pattern of behavior, as seen in a fandom space as opposed to a political space. Antis are just social conservatives and reactionaries who are interacting in a fandom space and are using the same tactics for that they use in political and social ones, including:
Controlling the narrative via terminology: “pro-life” instead of “anti-abortion” and “anti-ship” instead of “pro-censorship”
One set of rules for them, one set of rules for everyone else: “My abortion is moral, yours aren’t” and “my ship isn’t immoral, yours are.”
Demonization of their ideological opponents: “groomers”, “pedophiles”, etc.
Appeals to purity and “family values”: “but think of the Children!”
Acting as if their disgust should dictate morality: “It’s disgusting therefore nobody should do it!” “I shouldn’t have to see it!”
And so on and so forth.
It’s important to realize that Antis are essentially the same people as the ones making the “No Kink At Pride!” arguments and drinking the TERF Juice: they’re basically social conservatives (due to either upbringing or personal beliefs) who have been pushed or moved into a progressive space and are now attempting to assert their belief systems in that space.
It has been brought to my attention that over the course of the week, someone has gone to great lengths to spread lies and misinformation about me across several platforms. It has come time to apologize once more for things done in the past and explain myself.
So, please, I ask that you hear me out and reserve judgment until you’ve heard my side.
The main thing I would like to address is the ableist claim. I understand tone is hard to read in text format. I realize that what I said might have been read as malicious when that was not the intent.
What happened that led up to that regretful comment was this; Someone continued to deny an artist as the original source of their redraw, and refused to listen. I wasn’t trying to be malicious, but understanding. I wanted a better context of the situation so that I could try and explain to them why it was wrong to redraw someone’s art and claim it as theirs. But it was taken out of tone and out of context. I honestly didn’t mean any malicious intent towards them or anyone else when I asked. It was purely innocent. But I realize I should have worded my question better, and differently. Since then, that mistake, despite my having honestly apologized before, has been frozen in time by people who hate me and brought up time and time again, making me regret and hate having asked in the first place. So I would like to honestly apologize for making that comment.
The second accusation is me being racist. It is a lie. What really happened; another member was complaining about people drawing TLK characters as humans. If I remember correctly, they were very vague with the status post. It was so vague in a sense that I initially agreed with them. Then they showed their true colors by openly telling their followers how to find the artist that set them off in the first place, and thus targeting that artist. That’s when I stepped in to defend the artist they were dogpiling. Because of this, I’m seen as a racist.
Whitewashing and blackwashing is a thing that happens. I won’t deny that. It can and has happened in fandom spaces, I’m sure. But accusing someone of being racist over defending an innocent artist from dogpiling because they didn’t agree with you doesn’t make them racist. Lions have no race. If people are drawing the broadway actors white, then that would be whitewashing. But otherwise, lions do not have a race and have been a symbol of royalty for thousands of years. Even Disney’s Robin Hood, King Richard and Prince John are lions, but their characters are white. They are depicted as lions because they are royalty.
The third accusation is me being lesbophobic. I would like to apologize to the person I commented on their deviation. I still don’t understand shipping Rei Rei and Zira together. But if you’re willing to tell me the story, I’m willing to hear.
Unfortunately, after that was revealed, my stalker accused me of being lesbophobic. And I ship Lumity, and a couple of gay Transformer ships. I also ship Hicretstrid, a polyamorous ship. And have gay OCs.
I understand that I come across as harsh to many at first glance and for that I’m sorry if I sound intimidating through tone. I’m really a chill person once you get to know me.
But this character assassination witch hunt started because I openly admitted to being pro ship. Pro ship originally meant to be supportive of a specific ship or shipping in general. That we wouldn’t maliciously dogpile someone or suicide bait anyone over a specific ship. But far too many people have twisted the term, using the label to describe their feelings towards ships with problematic elements that were not and should not be accepted IRL. And I get that, we’re all allowed NOtps and squicks. I have NOtps and squicks too, but I won’t dogpile or anything malicious over ship preferences. I’m just gonna be chill with what y’all ship.
Everything that was used out of context against me was old. I have never done or said anything like that since, and have done my best to better myself as a person and correct my behavior. I have made mistakes, but I try to apologize for them when I do.
I’m not mad at my stalker. I pity them, and hope that they find peace of mind to move on.
Thank you for taking the time to read this and hear my side.
This is what antis look like when it comes to hating a ship so goddamn much that they’re willing to go above and beyond to harass shippers of that ship and belittle their creativity. They’re even reposting fanart of the two characters where the ship isn’t involved!
Balogjozsika is editing other people’s art for his own personal gain and throwing a huge Karen tantrum over getting caught. Even when people are telling him politely that they can’t do that. This sounds like a troll account to me.
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